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Center Idea: When to Choose High-Current, Low-VDO LDO

Use a 1–5 A low-VDO LDO only when the dropout headroom and thermal budget are provably safe, and the post-buck cleanup yields a measurable transient/ripple benefit.

Use or Skip? Three checks: headroom → thermal → measurable benefit Headroom VDO_margin = VIN(min) − VOUT Rule: VDO_margin ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V Thermal P_D = (VIN − VOUT) · I_OUT(avg) ΔT ≈ P_D · RθJA → T_J ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C Benefit Load dip ≤5% Ripple ↓ Adopt low-VDO LDO If all three checks pass Measure step dip & recovery time Skip / Use buck If headroom or thermal fails Or benefit is marginal Quick thresholds • 1–2 A: VDO@I_OUT ≤ 150–200 mV • 3–5 A: ≤ 200–300 mV • Target step: I_STEP ≈ 0.5·I_OUT(max) • Dip limit: ≤ 5% VOUT • If ΔT > 80 °C or T_J margins fail → do not use LDO
Decision gate: headroom → thermal → benefit. Adopt the low-VDO LDO only when all checks pass.

Bottom line: Pass all three: VDO_margin safe, T_J within margin, and a clear, measured transient/ripple improvement. Otherwise, stick with buck optimization.

Principles: Where VDO Comes From & Why Transients Differ

Dropout is set by pass-device conduction and drive headroom; transient behavior follows the ESR zero, output pole, and internal compensation.

VDO & Loop Anatomy Conduction + drive headroom set VDO; ESR zero guides stability and step response VDO sources VDO ≈ I_OUT · (R_DS(on)_pass + R_trace + R_sense) Drive headroom: limited gate/base drive near dropout Temperature: R_DS(on)(T) ↑ → VDO(T) ↑ Package/area reduce VDO but raise cost/size Pole/zero & step mag freq p_out = 1/(2π·R_load·C_out) z_ESR = 1/(2π·R_ESR·C_out) Quick formulas Initial dip: ΔV_step ≈ I_STEP·ESR + (I_STEP/C_out)·Δt_control Recovery: t_rec ≈ 3 / (2π·f_c) ESR_max ≤ (0.4·V_dip_max)/I_STEP; C_out_min ≥ (0.6·I_STEP·Δt_control)/V_dip_max
VDO stems from pass-device conduction and drive headroom; ESR zero and output pole shape the step response and stability window.
  • Budget V_dip_max across ESR spike (≈40%) and capacitive sag (≈60%).
  • Choose C/ESR within the device’s stability table; verify f_c and phase margin.
  • Log step dip (%, μs) at hot/cold; compare against VDO(T) trend.

Design Rules: Copy-Ready Formulas & Checks

Run three checks in order: headroom, thermal, then SOA/transient. Keep variables and units consistent with your test logs.

1) Headroom

VDO_margin = VIN(min) − VOUT(min)
Rule: VDO_margin ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V
Default: I_STEP ≈ 0.5·I_OUT(max)

2) Thermal

P_D,dc = (VIN − VOUT) · I_OUT(avg)
P_D = P_D,dc + (VIN − VOUT) · I_STEP · D_step
ΔT ≈ P_D · RθJA, T_J = T_A + ΔT ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C

3) SOA / Transient

ΔV_step ≈ I_STEP·ESR + (I_STEP/C_out)·Δt_control
Split budget: ESR ≈ 40%, Cap ≈ 60%
t_rec ≈ 3 / (2π·f_c)

Low-VDO LDO — Design Decision Run headroom → thermal → transient benefit. All pass → adopt. Headroom VDO_margin = VIN(min) − VOUT(min) Rule: ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V Thermal P_D = (VIN − VOUT)·I + pulses ΔT ≈ P_D·RθJA; T_J ≤ limit − 10 °C Benefit dip ≤5% ripple ↓ Adopt low-VDO LDO All checks pass Skip / use buck Headroom/thermal fail, or minor benefit Hints Default I_STEP ≈ 0.5·I_OUT(max); log 10/100/1000 µs load steps at −40/25/85 °C.
Three-step flow: headroom, thermal, benefit. Use the LDO only when all pass.
Load-step Dip Budget Split target dip between ESR spike (~40%) and capacitive sag (~60%). Waveform ESR spike (≈40%) Cap sag (≈60%) time → Formulas ΔV_step ≈ I_STEP·ESR + (I_STEP/C_out)·Δt_control ESR_max ≤ (0.4 · V_dip_max) / I_STEP C_out_min ≥ (0.6 · I_STEP · Δt_control) / V_dip_max t_rec ≈ 3 / (2π·f_c) Notes Choose C/ESR within the device’s stability table; verify phase margin. Log dip (%) and recovery (µs) across −40/25/85 °C and VIN(min/typ).
Allocate dip budget: ESR spike (~40%) and capacitive sag (~60%); size ESR and C from targets.

Example — FAIL

VIN(min)=1.90 V, VOUT=1.80 V, I_OUT(max)=3 A, I_STEP=1.5 A.
VDO@3 A=250 mV → VDO@1.5 A≈150 mV.
VDO_margin=100 mV < 150 mV+100 mV → Fail headroom.

Example — PASS

VIN(min)=2.05 V, VOUT=1.80 V, I_OUT(max)=3 A, I_STEP=1.5 A.
VDO_margin=250 mV ≥ 150 mV+100 mV → Headroom OK.
Next: compute P_D, ΔT, then ESR/C from dip target.

Measurement Checklist

Log: VIN/VOUT/I(t), dip (%), t_rec (µs), T_A/T_HOT, T_J estimate, D_step. Test 10/100/1000 µs steps at −40/25/85 °C and VIN(min/typ).

When LDO after Buck: Benefit vs Cost

Add a low-VDO LDO after a buck only if measurable ripple, spike, and step-response gains outweigh the headroom, thermal, and BOM costs.

Measurable Gains

Ripple attenuation: Att_ripple_dB = 20·log10(Vin_rip/Vout_rip)
Spike reduction: Spike_gain = Vspike_in/Vspike_out
Step improvement: Benefit_step = ΔV_buck/ΔV_buck+LDO

Costs

Efficiency: η_total ≈ η_buck · (VOUT/VINT)
Loss: P_D = (VINT − VOUT) · I_OUT(avg) + pulses
Thermal: ΔT ≈ P_D · RθJA (keep T_J ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C)

Benefit vs Cost Adopt if ≥2 gains exceed threshold while headroom & thermal pass. Ripple Att_ripple_dB ≥ 6 dB Vout_rip ≤ Vin_rip/2 Spikes Vspike_out ≤ 0.5 · Vspike_in Step ΔV & t_rec improved ≥ 2× Headroom VDO_margin ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V Thermal T_J ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C BOM/Space Extra C/damping/copper Adopt if gains ≥ threshold and costs within limits
Balance the measurable gains (ripple, spikes, step) against headroom, thermal, and BOM cost. Adopt only when the threshold is clearly met.
Buck vs Buck+LDO (same load step) Measure: ripple dB, spike ratio, dip (%) and recovery (µs). Vt Ripple: Att_ripple_dB ≥ 6 dB Spike ratio: ≤ 0.5 Step: dip & t_rec improved ≥ 2×
Overlay the same stimulus: buck-only vs buck+LDO. Quantify ripple dB, spike ratio, and step improvement.

Quick Decision

Adopt if ≥2 gains meet target and both headroom & thermal pass. Otherwise optimize the buck (loop, C, layout) or choose a better buck instead of adding an LDO.

Layout, Thermal & Validation

Keep the power loop short, sense at the load (Kelvin), spread heat with copper and vias, and validate with step/pulse testing across temperature.

Kelvin Sense & Short Power Loop Sense at the load; keep first Cout close; separate sense from switching noise. LDO Cout (first) Load Place first Cout close to OUT-GND loop Power loop: OUT → Cout → Load → GND (short & wide) Sense lines: thin, paired, to the load; keep away from SW node
Kelvin-sense to the load and keep the first Cout tight to the OUT–GND loop; separate sense lines from the switching area.
Thermal Spreading & Vias Use copper pours and a via array under the pad to reduce RθJA and hot spots. Thick copper + via array → RθJA ↓ Spread heat to inner/ground planes
Add copper area and a dense via array under the package pad to lower RθJA and smooth hot spots.

Validation: Step / Pulse Method

Stimulus: 10/100/1000 µs steps, I_STEP ≈ 0.5·I_OUT(max). Log VIN/VOUT/I(t), dip (%), t_rec (µs), T_A/T_HOT, T_J estimate. Test at −40/25/85 °C and VIN(min/typ). Targets: dip ≤ 5%, recovery 50–100 µs (use device limits).

Typical Fix Order

Fix sense routing → move first Cout closer → add damping / adjust ESR → widen power loop → add copper/vias → revisit headroom/thermal if still failing.

Metrics To Record

ΔV_dip(%), t_rec(µs), P_D(W), T_A/T_J(°C), RθJA(°C/W), Att_ripple(dB).

IC Selection Guide (1–5 A · Low VDO · Optional AEC-Q)

Shortlist across the seven brands. Values vary by option/temp; verify in the datasheet for your exact operating point and stability table.

Brand Part Number IOUT (A) VDO @ I (typ/max) VIN / VOUT Range Key Features AEC-Q Best-Fit Use
Texas Instruments TPS7A85 4 Low @ high I (see DS) VIN wide / VOUT adj Fast transient, PG, low noise options CPU/FPGA assist, SerDes
Texas Instruments TPS7A84A 3 Low (see DS) VIN wide / VOUT adj PSRR, soft-start, PG SoC I/O/PLL
Texas Instruments TPS7A53-Q1 / TPS7A54-Q1 3 / 4 Low (see DS) VIN/VOUT per variant PG, protections, fast transient AEC-Q100 Automotive assist rails
STMicroelectronics LD39200 2 ≈130 mV@2 A (typ, ref) VIN/VOUT per option High PSRR, PG, reverse-current prot. Some variants PLL/SerDes clean-up
STMicroelectronics LD59150 / LD59150-Q* 1.5 Very low (typ @ 1.5 A) VIN low / VOUT adj NMOS + BIAS, fast transient AEC-Q options Low headroom rails
Renesas (ex-Intersil) ISL80103 / ISL80102 3 / 2 Low @ rated I (see DS) VIN/VOUT per option PG, protections, transient focus — / variants General high-I assist
onsemi NCV59745 3 ≈115 mV typ (ref) VIN/VOUT per option Low noise, high PSRR, PG AEC-Q100 Automotive PLL/I/O
Microchip (Micrel) MIC69502 5 Low-to-mid (see DS) Low VIN / low VOUT High current linear; thermal focus Post-buck clean-up @ 3–5 A
Microchip (Micrel) MIC69302 3 Low-to-mid (see DS) Low VIN / low VOUT Single-supply options, PG CPU/FPGA assist, DDR aux
NXP — (no standalone 1–5 A LDO) Use PMIC-integrated rails or cross-brand Cross to TI/REN/MCHP/ON/ST
Melexis — (no standalone 1–5 A LDO) Focus on sensors/actuators; cross-brand Cross to TI/REN/MCHP/ON/ST

≥3 A · Very Low VDO · Fast Transient

TPS7A85 / TPS7A54-Q1 · ISL80103 · MIC69302 · NCV59745

1–2 A · Low Headroom

LD39200 · LD59150(-Q*) · ISL80102

Automotive (AEC-Q)

TPS7A53-Q1 / TPS7A54-Q1 · NCV59745 · LD59150-Q*

Use-Case Cards

Match the rail’s noise/transient targets and thermal budget. Verify stability (C/ESR window) and VDO at your load/temperature.

CPU/GPU/FPGA Assist Rails

Target < 10–20 mVpp and fast recovery (<100 µs). Ensure VDO margin and thermal headroom at 3–5 A peaks.

  • Primary picks: TPS7A85, MIC69302, MIC69502
  • Automotive: TPS7A54-Q1, NCV59745
  • Notes: log step dip (%), trec; Kelvin-sense at load.

SoC I/O / PLL / SerDes

Prioritize high PSRR and low ripple; headroom can be small; typical 1–3 A continuous.

  • Primary picks: LD39200, TPS7A84A, ISL80102/03
  • Automotive: LD59150-Q*, NCV59745
  • Notes: confirm C/ESR stability table and PG behavior.

DDR Auxiliary Rails (non-VTT)

Moderate noise and step targets; ensure PG/sequence compatibility; typical 1–3 A envelope.

  • Primary picks: TPS7A84A, ISL80102/03, MIC69302
  • Automotive: TPS7A53-Q1, NCV59745
  • Notes: verify start-up with downstream timing; check reverse-current behavior.

Routing & Anti-Crossing Note

This page excludes DDR VTT/Vref specifics, wideband PSRR “ultra-low-noise” lists, and ultra-low-Iq topics. For those, route to their own sub-pages to avoid content overlap.

Troubleshooting

Diagnose by symptom → confirm with measurements → apply the shortest fix first. Keep records of VIN/VOUT/I(t), dip (%), t_rec, T_A/T_J, and layout notes.

Troubleshooting Ladder Check in this order; apply the first effective fix and re-test. VDO insufficientHeadroom < VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V RootCable IR drop / low VIN node First fixRaise upstream V / shorten path Thermal shutdownT_J hits limit RootP_D underestimated; RθJA optimistic First fixAdd copper + vias; reduce Vdrop OscillationRinging / squeal / self-osc RootC/ESR out of stability table First fixUse recommended C/ESR + damping Cable droopLoad sees low V RootR_line / L_line cause drop & spike First fixPlace LDO near load + local C Parallel imbalanceOne device hogs current RootUncontrolled sharing / thermal run First fixAvoid parallel; use OR-ing/ideal diode
Start with the first-fix on each rung; re-test and only escalate if limits are still breached.

VDO Insufficient

Confirm VDO_margin = VIN(min) − VOUT(min) ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V. Measure at the LDO pins and at the load (two probes). Fix: raise upstream setpoint or shorten/ thicken the feed; consider a lower-VDO LDO or BIAS topology.

Thermal Shutdown

Estimate P_D = (VIN − VOUT)·I_avg + (VIN − VOUT)·I_STEP·D_step. Keep T_J ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C. Fix: copper pours + via array, reduce Vdrop, choose better θJA package; if still hot, prefer buck.

Oscillation / Squeal

Use capacitor series from the stability table; adjust ESR/damping. Keep sense lines paired and away from SW areas; add minimum load if required. Measure with a short ground spring to avoid false ringing.

Cable Droop

V_drop ≈ I_load · R_line and L_line spikes degrade steps. Move the LDO close to the load, place the first Cout tight to OUT–GND, add local bulk + small ESR resistor for damping, or shorten the harness.

Parallel Imbalance

Avoid direct paralleling of generic LDOs. If redundancy is needed, use OR-ing/ideal diode; for true sharing, adopt a controller with current-balance. As a last resort, add small mΩ ballast resistors (with efficiency penalty).

Two-Point Probe: Pins vs Load Measure both nodes under 10/100/1000 µs steps to quantify cable IR drop and spikes. Pins: smaller dip Load: IR drop + L spike Fix: move LDO closer + local C
Probe both the LDO pins and the load node to quantify harness loss and tune damping.

Mini CTA

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  • Pin-to-pin where possible
  • Stability table + PG behavior checked
  • Thermal and headroom margins verified

PAA FAQs (Engineer Tone)

When do low-VDO benefits outweigh thermal loss?

Adopt a low-VDO LDO after the buck when measured gains meet thresholds: ripple attenuation ≥6 dB, spike ratio ≤0.5, and step-recovery improvement ≥2×. Confirm junction rise is acceptable: ΔT ≈ P_D·RθJA with P_D = (VIN−VOUT)·I_avg + pulses. Keep T_J ≤ T_J(max) − 10 °C across −40/25/85 °C and worst-case headroom.

Is paralleling 1–5 A LDOs reliable, and what’s required?

Generic LDOs should not be directly paralleled: current hogging and thermal run-away are likely. If redundancy is required, use OR-ing or ideal-diode controllers. For true current sharing, select devices with balance control or add mΩ ballast resistors (with efficiency penalty). Keep each path ≤70–80% rated I and ensure symmetric thermal layout.

Low-VDO vs high-PSRR LDO: how to trade noise and transients?

Low-VDO devices minimize headroom and heat at high current but may offer lower PSRR at 100 kHz–1 MHz and higher broadband noise than high-PSRR types. For PLL/SerDes, favor PSRR/noise. For CPU/FPGA assists, favor VDO and transient response. Verify PSRR at 1 kHz and 100 kHz, noise (µV_RMS), and step dip/recovery on your capacitor set.

How much ripple/spike reduction can LDO-after-buck deliver?

Test with identical stimulus before/after: calculate Att_ripple_dB = 20·log10(Vin_rip/Vout_rip), spike ratio = Vspike_in/Vspike_out, and step improvement versus recovery time. Targets: ≥6 dB ripple cut, spikes ≤0.5×, step dip or recovery ≥2× better. If metrics fall short, optimize the buck loop and layout before adding an LDO.

Which load and temperature points should VDO be checked at?

Use the step current the rail actually sees (I_STEP), not just I_OUT(max). Check VDO at −40 °C, nominal, and hot, including process tolerance. Enforce: VDO_margin = VIN(min) − VOUT(min) ≥ VDO@I_STEP + 0.10 V. If the worst-case point fails this guard band, select a lower-VDO device or increase upstream setpoint.

When should you switch to a small-duty low-drop buck instead of an LDO?

Prefer a buck when P_D makes ΔT uncontrollable or efficiency falls below your minimum target. Typical cutovers: ΔT margin <10 °C under representative duty, or η_total significantly lower than budget. Validate that buck ripple/EMI meets the rail’s tolerance; if not, add a clean-up filter or post-LDO with sufficient headroom.

Which AEC-Q100 items matter most for high-current LDOs?

Focus on temperature grade (e.g., Grade 1), HTOL, temperature cycling, ESD, latch-up, and PG/RESET repeatability. Confirm PG thresholds and delays across corners, reverse-current behavior, and short-to-battery/ground protections. Sequence compatibility with downstream ECUs must be verified during crank/brown-out, at VIN(min) and thermal hotspots.

How do Kelvin-sense and power loops avoid “inner-loop zeros” side effects?

Sense at the load with a paired, low-noise route separated from the power loop. Place the first Cout tight to OUT–GND. Avoid mixing sense returns with high di/dt grounds. Keep wiring inductance low; if a sense filter is needed, select RC values that do not introduce a pole/zero inside the control bandwidth.

How to prevent reset chatter in power-up/down sequencing?

Align PG/RESET thresholds and delays with downstream supervisors. Ensure monotonic rise and adequate hold-time on power-down. Verify PG tolerance over temp and load transients. If chatter appears, increase delay or hysteresis, and reduce upstream noise. Test with worst-case ramp rates and brown-out events to confirm stability.

Root-causing VOUT jitter: source impedance, ESR, ground bounce, harness?

Probe both the LDO pins and the load node under 10/100/1000 µs steps. High source impedance, off-spec ESR/ESL, ground bounce, and harness L can all add jitter. Use a ground spring or coax to avoid false ringing. Add damping, shorten loops, and move the regulator closer to the load.

Thermal protection trips frequently—what’s the tuning order?

First, lower VOUT if permitted, then reduce I_LIMIT to curtail peaks. Next, add copper area and via arrays; improve enclosure thermal paths. If ΔT remains high, reduce (VIN−VOUT) or switch to a buck. Always log T_A and estimated T_J under realistic pulse duty to validate improvements.

DDR auxiliary rails (non-VTT): what should I watch?

Noise and transient needs are moderate, but PG timing must align with the main memory and controller rails. Confirm stability table on your capacitors, and check reverse-current behavior. Keep this topic separate from VTT/Vref specifics to avoid overlap and ensure the dedicated VTT page holds termination details.

Minimal delta and sharing strategies for LDO paralleling?

If parallel operation is unavoidable, use small mΩ ballast resistors to force sharing and maintain symmetrical copper/thermal paths. Monitor imbalance factor and hotspot delta. Prefer redundancy via OR-ing rather than current pooling. For true sharing, adopt parts with active balance control rather than generic LDOs.

Test script: step box, sampling rate, window, and logging fields?

Apply 10/100/1000 µs steps at I_STEP ≈ 0.5·I_OUT(max). Sample ≥10× the loop bandwidth. Log VIN, VOUT, I(t), dip (%), t_rec (µs), T_A/T_J (°C), Att_ripple_dB, and Spike_ratio. Test across −40/25/85 °C and VIN(min/typ). Use two-point probing (pins vs load) for harness effects.

Stocking plan: same-package dual options and one cross-brand?

Return two picks by default: one same-brand and one cross-brand, prioritizing package pinout, stability-table fit, PG behavior, and availability (AEC-Q optional). Document replacement cautions (sense routing, C/ESR windows). This keeps samples and small-batch builds flowing despite supply fluctuations.

Social Media Version (Concise Takes)

Low-VDO vs heat

Keep it only if you measure ≥6 dB ripple cut or ≥2× better steps and T_J stays ≥10 °C below max. No metrics, no LDO. Run the same step script before/after and decide by numbers, not hopes.

Paralleling

Don’t parallel generic LDOs. If you must, add mΩ ballast or use OR-ing. Real sharing needs real controllers—not wishful thinking.

Noise vs VDO

PLL/SerDes: pick PSRR/noise. CPU/FPGA assist: pick VDO/transients. Measure at 1 kHz and 100 kHz, not just “looks fine”.

After-buck payoff

Same stimulus. If ripple <-6 dB and spikes halve, you win. If not, fix the buck or layout first.

Which VDO point

Size for I_STEP at −40 °C. Guard band 0.10 V. Pass that, or change the part.

Buck instead

If ΔT margin <10 °C or η falls off a cliff, use a buck. Then retest noise.

AEC-Q

Grade, HTOL, ESD/latch-up, PG repeatability. Test crank/brown-out, not just room temp.

Kelvin-sense

Sense at the load, keep it away from power loops, and place the first Cout tight. That’s 80% of stability drama solved.

Reset chatter

Match PG thresholds/hysteresis and add delay. Prove it with worst-case ramps.

VOUT jitter

Two-point probe. Fix ESR/ESL, ground bounce, and harness L. Short the loop, add damping.

Thermal trips

Lower VOUT → trim I_LIMIT → add copper/vias → improve enclosure → choose buck. Log T_A/T_J each step.

DDR aux

Moderate noise; PG timing matters. Keep VTT topics on the VTT page.

Parallel delta

If forced, add mΩ ballast and mirror the copper. Prefer redundancy, not pooling.

Test script

10/100/1000 µs steps, ≥10× BW sampling, log dip, t_rec, T_A/T_J, ripple dB, spike ratio.

Stocking

Always keep two: same-brand + cross-brand, same package if possible. Stability table first.

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